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THOUSANDS of people were caught in horrendous traffic jams across Dorset and the New Forest yesterday.
In Bournemouth, tailbacks on Castle Lane were described as the worst ever, with some shoppers stuck in the Castlepoint car park for hours.
Traffic across Bournemouth and Poole was hit by the rush-hour closure of a section of the Wessex Way.
And drivers heading into Dorset from Hampshire queued for miles as people headed to the coast.
The queues on Castle Lane stretched back from the Cooper Dean Roundabout past Mallard Road.
Castlepoint boss Peter Matthews said the scenes were the worst he had seen since the roadworks started five months ago.
The bulk of the disruptive work is almost over and the roadworks are predicted to finish ahead of schedule.
Traffic started to build up from 11am but five hours later, shoppers were still reporting massive delays in getting on to Castle Lane.
Sue Roberts, of Christchurch, said: "It is absolutely horrendous. I had some time off so I thought I'd pop up to Marks and Spencer at Castlepoint. I was in there for half an hour but I've been struck trying to get out for three hours.
"Other people have been here for even longer and you do hear people starting to swear. It's taking some people an hour just to get out of their parking space, let alone move anywhere."
Castlepoint manager Mr Matthews said: "It's incredibly frustrating. Friday is always a busy shopping day anyway, plus it's the last day of school and the start of Marks and Spencer's sale.
"But if traffic can't get out on to Castle Lane, there's absolutely nothing we can do.
"There was one day in April when the traffic was absolutely horrendous but today is possibly the worst day so far. Luckily there's only a week of carriageway work left and I can't believe it could be this bad again."
Meanwhile, a broken-down lorry at the Frizzell roundabout caused police to close off the Wessex Way and its surrounding roads during the evening rush hour.
There were dozens of angry bus passengers at Poole bus station when buses stuck in traffic jams failed to turn up.
Chris Harris spokesperson for Wilts & Dorset, said: "There have been considerable problems because of the traffic congestion in Westbourne.
"We apologise for the delays, but it was beyond our control."
Traffic heading towards Dorset between Cadnam and Ringwood was down to an average of 10mph last night. On parts of the M27 westbound, speeds were down to 20mph.
Bob Humphries, a spokesman at Dorset Police, said: "Traffic is very heavy everywhere. I would assume it is down to the weather not being very nice and holidaymakers drifting around with nowhere to go and the rush hour."
Cllr Robert Lawton, Bournemouth's cabinet member for environment and transport, said of the Castle Lane roadworks: "We apologise for the inconvenience caused and would like to assure road users that the major disruptive work is due to be competed by the end of July. Our staff on the ground are working hard to keep ahead of schedule.
"In the meantime we urge drivers to take an alternative route and avoid Castle Lane where possible."
8:00am Saturday 19th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: alumchineboy, Alumchine on 8:12am Sat 19 Jul 08
Why do we have to have so many roadworks this time of year ? Are the works urgent ? The town is full of visitors yet dug up everywhere. It seems that over the past few years Castelpoint has continually been one big roadwork site. Its probably best avoiding for the next few months.
Why do we have to have so many roadworks this time of year ? Are the works urgent ? The town is full of visitors yet dug up everywhere. It seems that over the past few years Castelpoint has continually been one big roadwork site. Its probably best avoiding for the next few months.
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 8:19am Sat 19 Jul 08
same here road works at upton plus all the repairs on the bridge at wimborne a nightmare
same here road works at upton plus all the repairs on the bridge at wimborne a nightmare
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 8:29am Sat 19 Jul 08
What do you expect? Grockle season has started.
Senior schools are out and primary schools pack up on Tuesday. This means more traffic and more gangs of kids on corners.
It happens every year so why are we surprised?
What do you expect? Grockle season has started.
Senior schools are out and primary schools pack up on Tuesday. This means more traffic and more gangs of kids on corners.
It happens every year so why are we surprised?
Posted by: hoppity, hamworthy on 8:39am Sat 19 Jul 08
were not just having a whinge makes us feel better
were not just having a whinge makes us feel better
Posted by: Poolemaninscotland, scotland on 10:10am Sat 19 Jul 08
Can someone please please please tell me why the county of Dorset is the only county in the whole of England without a Motorway running throughout it with feeder roads leading onto it or off of it. Could this be why we have the same problems year in and year out. When the planners decided on building Castlepoint, did anyone consider at the time about the influx of heavy traffic tied in with rush hours and school runs and peak period holiday times. When are people who make these decisions going to wake up and smell the coffee beans and maybe realise that we are living in a real world and not some fantasy land.
Can someone please please please tell me why the county of Dorset is the only county in the whole of England without a Motorway running throughout it with feeder roads leading onto it or off of it. Could this be why we have the same problems year in and year out. When the planners decided on building Castlepoint, did anyone consider at the time about the influx of heavy traffic tied in with rush hours and school runs and peak period holiday times. When are people who make these decisions going to wake up and smell the coffee beans and maybe realise that we are living in a real world and not some fantasy land.
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 10:32am Sat 19 Jul 08
At any time there is a queue back as far as the ramp DO NOT use the eastern exit from Castlepoint. Even if heading towards Iford it is usually better to take the western exit, turn right at the roundabout, left into East Way and back through either Queens Park Drive or Charminster. Its further but probably quicker and less wasteful of fuel.
When Castle Lane heading east is not moving there isn't much that Castlepoint can do. However the road layout inside Castlepoint is poorly designed - hopefully they may have an opportunity to address this - and the traffic lights at the roundabout by the Mallard Rd junction seem completely brain dead. For long periods of time cars just sit there waiting for who-knows-what? I'm sure they could be tuned. In fact if the lights weren't there I think the traffic would flow better. Traffic lights on roundabouts are usually a mistake. The most intelligent control systems are sitting behind the steering wheels... generally. Ok not always but you know what I mean!
At any time there is a queue back as far as the ramp DO NOT use the eastern exit from Castlepoint. Even if heading towards Iford it is usually better to take the western exit, turn right at the roundabout, left into East Way and back through either Queens Park Drive or Charminster. Its further but probably quicker and less wasteful of fuel.
When Castle Lane heading east is not moving there isn't much that Castlepoint can do. However the road layout inside Castlepoint is poorly designed - hopefully they may have an opportunity to address this - and the traffic lights at the roundabout by the Mallard Rd junction seem completely brain dead. For long periods of time cars just sit there waiting for who-knows-what? I'm sure they could be tuned. In fact if the lights weren't there I think the traffic would flow better. Traffic lights on roundabouts are usually a mistake. The most intelligent control systems are sitting behind the steering wheels... generally. Ok not always but you know what I mean!
Posted by: alumchineboy, Alumchine on 11:42am Sat 19 Jul 08
One reason the roads are rubbish here is because when they wanted to continue the wessex way and give us the ability to travel quickly from one side of town to the other it was stopped because a rare butterfly had been discovered and therefore were all in this mess now. I'm against everything being covered in concrete but we have to make it easier to get about otherwise gridlock will ensue.
One reason the roads are rubbish here is because when they wanted to continue the wessex way and give us the ability to travel quickly from one side of town to the other it was stopped because a rare butterfly had been discovered and therefore were all in this mess now. I'm against everything being covered in concrete but we have to make it easier to get about otherwise gridlock will ensue.
Posted by: dancingdog777, Christchurch on 11:58am Sat 19 Jul 08
Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle?
And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.
Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle?
And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.
Posted by: Robert Ratcliffe, poole on 12:22pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]dancingdog777[/bold] wrote:
Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.[/quote] As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.
dancingdog777 wrote:
Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.
As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.
Posted by: APMF, bournemouth on 12:54pm Sat 19 Jul 08
I live near Castle Lane and the disruption has been horrendous. I cant actually see what they expect to achieve or what they have done to the road to ease the conjestion. Still 2 lanes out of Castle Point filtering back into 1 lane and then back to 2 lanes again. It will not make the traffic flow any quicker, just a complete waste of public money and a total inconvenience for all concerned.
I live near Castle Lane and the disruption has been horrendous. I cant actually see what they expect to achieve or what they have done to the road to ease the conjestion. Still 2 lanes out of Castle Point filtering back into 1 lane and then back to 2 lanes again. It will not make the traffic flow any quicker, just a complete waste of public money and a total inconvenience for all concerned.
Posted by: Back Of The Net, Boscombe on 1:00pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Where's the usual "it took me an hour to do a journey I could walk in 5-10 minutes" post?
Have these people actually started walking? Perhaps they're still stuck?
Where's the usual "it took me an hour to do a journey I could walk in 5-10 minutes" post?
Have these people actually started walking? Perhaps they're still stuck?
Posted by: kinson res, kinson on 1:19pm Sat 19 Jul 08
it took me an hour to do a journey i could walk in 5-10 minutes!
it took me an hour to do a journey i could walk in 5-10 minutes!
Posted by: Gastines, St.Malo ex Bournemouth on 1:50pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Reminds me of a sticker in a car rear window" Bournemouth Town Planners do it with their eyes shut" Too true.
Reminds me of a sticker in a car rear window" Bournemouth Town Planners do it with their eyes shut" Too true.
Posted by: philly, bournemouth on 1:51pm Sat 19 Jul 08
My mother lives just off Chesildene on one sdie of castle-whats-the-poi
nt and I live just off castle lane near Ibbertson Road on the other. Decided to go for a visit with child to grandmas house.(in car-disabled) Took me 37 minutes door to door. In the old days it took under one minute.
But back to the lanes...it is true they go from one to 2 to one again to 3 then back to 2 just before the cooper dean roundabout then to 3 for a dedicated lane out onto the wessex way. And this will help, how?
Tip: I have started using the empty right hand lane coming out of castlepoint to go around the woodbury road roundabout then down Woodbury Avenue home. Even getting stopped by the 2 sets of lights, I still consistently beat the queue trying to get along castle lane! Wave next time you see me!!! :-)
My mother lives just off Chesildene on one sdie of castle-whats-the-poi
nt and I live just off castle lane near Ibbertson Road on the other. Decided to go for a visit with child to grandmas house.(in car-disabled) Took me 37 minutes door to door. In the old days it took under one minute.
But back to the lanes...it is true they go from one to 2 to one again to 3 then back to 2 just before the cooper dean roundabout then to 3 for a dedicated lane out onto the wessex way. And this will help, how?
Tip: I have started using the empty right hand lane coming out of castlepoint to go around the woodbury road roundabout then down Woodbury Avenue home. Even getting stopped by the 2 sets of lights, I still consistently beat the queue trying to get along castle lane! Wave next time you see me!!! :-)
Posted by: apg1979, Bournemouth on 2:00pm Sat 19 Jul 08
This would not have happened or would not happen had the Northern Relief road been build! But as always this council and certain members of the public are too narrow minded to see this! Surely constant traffic jams with cars stopping and starting is MORE plotting that a dual carriageway of free flowing traffic. Building THE NOTHER RELIEF ROAD with a link direct to castle point taking traffic away from Castle lane is the only LONG Term solution
This would not have happened or would not happen had the Northern Relief road been build! But as always this council and certain members of the public are too narrow minded to see this! Surely constant traffic jams with cars stopping and starting is MORE plotting that a dual carriageway of free flowing traffic. Building THE NOTHER RELIEF ROAD with a link direct to castle point taking traffic away from Castle lane is the only LONG Term solution
Posted by: apg1979, Bournemouth on 2:03pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]apg1979[/bold] wrote:
This would not have happened or would not happen had the Northern Relief road been build! But as always this council and certain members of the public are too narrow minded to see this! Surely constant traffic jams with cars stopping and starting is MORE plotting that a dual carriageway of free flowing traffic. Building THE NOTHER RELIEF ROAD with a link direct to castle point taking traffic away from Castle lane is the only LONG Term solution[/quote] Sorry should read
"[italic]Surely constant traffic jams with cars stopping and starting is MORE polluting than"[/italic]
apg1979 wrote:
This would not have happened or would not happen had the Northern Relief road been build! But as always this council and certain members of the public are too narrow minded to see this! Surely constant traffic jams with cars stopping and starting is MORE plotting that a dual carriageway of free flowing traffic. Building THE NOTHER RELIEF ROAD with a link direct to castle point taking traffic away from Castle lane is the only LONG Term solution
Sorry should read
"
Surely constant traffic jams with cars stopping and starting is MORE polluting than" Posted by: Jan, Townsend resident on 4:33pm Sat 19 Jul 08
If you think the traffic is bad now, just wait for September when there will be even more traffic on the roads due to the enforced closure of Townsend School.
I was told that the car park at Townsend was designed by two people who don't actually drive! Can anyone at the council confirm this?
If you think the traffic is bad now, just wait for September when there will be even more traffic on the roads due to the enforced closure of Townsend School.
I was told that the car park at Townsend was designed by two people who don't actually drive! Can anyone at the council confirm this?
Posted by: Jan, Townsend resident on 4:35pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Apologies, the previous should read:
I was told that the car park at Castlepoint was designed by two people who don't actually drive! Can anyone at the council confirm this?
Apologies, the previous should read:
I was told that the car park at Castlepoint was designed by two people who don't actually drive! Can anyone at the council confirm this?
Posted by: cheesedof, wimborne on 5:03pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe they were painting white lines at Cadnam. KIDS JUST BROKE UP, JULY, FRIDAY NIGHT. Hats of to the forward planners in HAMPSHIRE! When will any of these jobsworths become accountable?[bold][bold]bold[/bold] [bold][bold]bold[/bold] [/bold] [/bold]
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe they were painting white lines at Cadnam. KIDS JUST BROKE UP, JULY, FRIDAY NIGHT. Hats of to the forward planners in HAMPSHIRE! When will any of these jobsworths become accountable?
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 5:06pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jan[/bold] wrote:
Apologies, the previous should read:
I was told that the car park at Castlepoint was designed by two people who don't actually drive! Can anyone at the council confirm this? [/quote] I can totally believe this. The car park breaks a fundamental rule... it puts incoming traffic in conflict with outgoing traffic. Duh! If you look at other car parks they don't do this. Examples being the multistory at West Quay where the primary exit is on the far side of the building.
When they rebuild the car park at Castlepoint they must grab the chance to fix this.
Jan wrote:
Apologies, the previous should read:
I was told that the car park at Castlepoint was designed by two people who don't actually drive! Can anyone at the council confirm this?
I can totally believe this. The car park breaks a fundamental rule... it puts incoming traffic in conflict with outgoing traffic. Duh! If you look at other car parks they don't do this. Examples being the multistory at West Quay where the primary exit is on the far side of the building.
When they rebuild the car park at Castlepoint they must grab the chance to fix this.
Posted by: chris100, bournemouth on 5:36pm Sat 19 Jul 08
the traffic lights are to blame by cooperdean
if your coming castlepoint you get stuck as the lights change to quick from iford way to the wessex way ones and only about 2 cars can get onto the cooperdean whilst they change and there is a small gap
also why did they remove a good roundabout at mallard road and put a stupid small one in with traffic lights as if you come from mallard road only 3 cars can stop without blocking the road
BOURNEMOUTH HIGHWAYS DEPARTMENT NEED SACKING FOR LETTING SUCH A STUPID ROAD LAYOUT BE ALLOWED
the traffic lights are to blame by cooperdean
if your coming castlepoint you get stuck as the lights change to quick from iford way to the wessex way ones and only about 2 cars can get onto the cooperdean whilst they change and there is a small gap
also why did they remove a good roundabout at mallard road and put a stupid small one in with traffic lights as if you come from mallard road only 3 cars can stop without blocking the road
BOURNEMOUTH HIGHWAYS DEPARTMENT NEED SACKING FOR LETTING SUCH A STUPID ROAD LAYOUT BE ALLOWED
Posted by: chris100, bournemouth on 5:38pm Sat 19 Jul 08
forgot to say there are 7 sets of traffic lights between mallard road and the cooperdean not incluiding the ones on the cooperdean
forgot to say there are 7 sets of traffic lights between mallard road and the cooperdean not incluiding the ones on the cooperdean
Posted by: nickboy, West London on 6:12pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]cheesedof[/bold] wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe they were painting white lines at Cadnam. KIDS JUST BROKE UP, JULY, FRIDAY NIGHT. Hats of to the forward planners in HAMPSHIRE! When will any of these jobsworths become accountable?[bold][bold]bold[/bold] [bold][bold]bold[/bold] [/bold] [/bold] [/quote] That was why the traffic was queued up joining the A31 when I was coming home from work last night ! Luckily I got off and went through Lyndhurst and back to AFCB -what a ludicrous time to do it !
cheesedof wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe they were painting white lines at Cadnam. KIDS JUST BROKE UP, JULY, FRIDAY NIGHT. Hats of to the forward planners in HAMPSHIRE! When will any of these jobsworths become accountable?
That was why the traffic was queued up joining the A31 when I was coming home from work last night ! Luckily I got off and went through Lyndhurst and back to AFCB -what a ludicrous time to do it !
Posted by: topbanana, Boscombe on 8:09pm Sat 19 Jul 08
This will keep getting worse until there is total gridlock. More cars join Bournemouth roads every week as there are more people passing their driving tests than there are stopping driving. When the airport expands then chaos will ensue.
This will keep getting worse until there is total gridlock. More cars join Bournemouth roads every week as there are more people passing their driving tests than there are stopping driving. When the airport expands then chaos will ensue.
Posted by: Little M, Branksome on 9:45pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Crazy!!!!
Posted by: Gastines, St.Malo ex Bournemouth on 6:37am Sun 20 Jul 08
As Car-Park Contractor Kier now seem to be in the same financial state as the majority of Building Firms,just closing 4out of 5 offices and getting rid of 2/3rds of it's workforce,it may be some time before the "Unsafe" carpark is re-built. Surprising how it was declared unsafe 2 years+ ago and is still in use. If the Council Safety officers closed it on safety grounds,before it hits the ground, I expect it might get sorted and hopefully re-designed.
As Car-Park Contractor Kier now seem to be in the same financial state as the majority of Building Firms,just closing 4out of 5 offices and getting rid of 2/3rds of it's workforce,it may be some time before the "Unsafe" carpark is re-built. Surprising how it was declared unsafe 2 years+ ago and is still in use. If the Council Safety officers closed it on safety grounds,before it hits the ground, I expect it might get sorted and hopefully re-designed.
Posted by: HAL101, Bournemouth on 9:19am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Robert Ratcliffe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dancingdog777[/bold] wrote: Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.[/quote] As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.[/quote] [bold]Obviously[/bold] closing off the Wessex Way made a serious situation [bold]considerably worse[/bold], and your comment is just [bold]plain stupid[/bold]. The jams around the blockage were so tight that even a rat couldn't slip through. So dancingdog777's suggestion is a [italic]very sensible one[/italic]. The flow of traffic needs to be kept moving and many years ago this was a priority for the police in the event of an accident or jam. But not now - can I smell a rat here?
Robert Ratcliffe wrote:
dancingdog777 wrote: Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.
As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.
Obviously closing off the Wessex Way made a serious situation
considerably worse, and your comment is just
plain stupid. The jams around the blockage were so tight that even a rat couldn't slip through. So dancingdog777's suggestion is a
very sensible one. The flow of traffic needs to be kept moving and many years ago this was a priority for the police in the event of an accident or jam. But not now - can I smell a rat here?
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 10:22am Sun 20 Jul 08
OK..there's two things that bug me when something happens on a major road..usually, it's a car broken down, so, how does a car just stop in the middle of the road if it breaks down?..surely 90% of the time you know if something is up with your car..why don't people get over quickly before it actually stops, therefore not blocking the road. Also, why do thousands just drive by and not help push it off of the road ( i know this was a lorry..but it's not usually)..and the thing that really bugs me is if the broken down vehicle is off the road, the police actually park behind/beside it blocking one lane, and they also just "leave you to it"..why do they not at least direct the traffic?
OK..there's two things that bug me when something happens on a major road..usually, it's a car broken down, so, how does a car just stop in the middle of the road if it breaks down?..surely 90% of the time you know if something is up with your car..why don't people get over quickly before it actually stops, therefore not blocking the road. Also, why do thousands just drive by and not help push it off of the road ( i know this was a lorry..but it's not usually)..and the thing that really bugs me is if the broken down vehicle is off the road, the police actually park behind/beside it blocking one lane, and they also just "leave you to it"..why do they not at least direct the traffic?
Posted by: fiona, Bournemouth on 10:24am Sun 20 Jul 08
Tailbacks on Castle Lane were described as the worst ever, with some shoppers stuck in the Castlepoint car park for ''hours''
Thats an exaggeration
I doubt any car was stuck in that car park for ''hours'' that doesnt happen
Tailbacks on Castle Lane were described as the worst ever, with some shoppers stuck in the Castlepoint car park for ''hours''
Thats an exaggeration
I doubt any car was stuck in that car park for ''hours'' that doesnt happen
Posted by: alan, birmingham on 11:40am Sun 20 Jul 08
well i can't see how the roadworks will be an improvement to traffic flow.....it's the same layout as before only neater....no extra lanes
well i can't see how the roadworks will be an improvement to traffic flow.....it's the same layout as before only neater....no extra lanes
Posted by: debbie2110, bournemouth on 11:55am Sun 20 Jul 08
Took me 35 mins to get from B&Q to Castledene at 11:30 on Friday and inconsiderate driving - stopping on the yellow gridlines, people prohibiting merging traffic by bumper creeping didn't add to the experience. We're all in the same boat, so try to be a little more patient and considerate please!
Took me 35 mins to get from B&Q to Castledene at 11:30 on Friday and inconsiderate driving - stopping on the yellow gridlines, people prohibiting merging traffic by bumper creeping didn't add to the experience. We're all in the same boat, so try to be a little more patient and considerate please!
Posted by: GAHmusic, Bournemouth on 12:23pm Sun 20 Jul 08
Some of you may not be aware but it is only going to get worse. There are huge plans for development around both the hospital and Wessex fields that will not only cause massive disruption while being built but could introduce up to another 3000 commuters into the area.
I believe these plans have already been approved.
Some of you may not be aware but it is only going to get worse. There are huge plans for development around both the hospital and Wessex fields that will not only cause massive disruption while being built but could introduce up to another 3000 commuters into the area.
I believe these plans have already been approved.
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 1:59pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[bold]Cllr. Robert Lawton says, "In the meantime we urge drivers to take an alternative route and avoid Castle Lane where possible."[/bold]
All well and good, but where are the alternative routes out of Castlepoint. East or West is all there is. And if the Wessex Way is blocked, more problems.
The way I see it is for the whole of Castle Lane, from the Broadway to Cooper Dean should be a two lane road in either direction with proper slip road leading off into Castlepoint West end, and leading back on to the road at Castlepoint East end. West bound traffic move to Cooper Dean and then reroute back along Castle Lane, or up Wessex Way.
Another entry point should be built into the car park at Castlepoint with the existing one being added to the exit lanes.
No need for a motorway in Dorset. We have a perfect system using good "A" roads through from the New Forest and beyond and through Dorset. If Hampshire Council are stupid enough to paint white markings at high traffic flow times then there will be delays.
Cllr. Robert Lawton says, "In the meantime we urge drivers to take an alternative route and avoid Castle Lane where possible."
All well and good, but where are the alternative routes out of Castlepoint. East or West is all there is. And if the Wessex Way is blocked, more problems.
The way I see it is for the whole of Castle Lane, from the Broadway to Cooper Dean should be a two lane road in either direction with proper slip road leading off into Castlepoint West end, and leading back on to the road at Castlepoint East end. West bound traffic move to Cooper Dean and then reroute back along Castle Lane, or up Wessex Way.
Another entry point should be built into the car park at Castlepoint with the existing one being added to the exit lanes.
No need for a motorway in Dorset. We have a perfect system using good "A" roads through from the New Forest and beyond and through Dorset. If Hampshire Council are stupid enough to paint white markings at high traffic flow times then there will be delays.
Posted by: Robert Ratcliffe, poole on 8:47pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote][bold]HAL101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Robert Ratcliffe[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]dancingdog777[/bold] wrote: Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.[/quote] As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.[/quote] [bold]Obviously[/bold] closing off the Wessex Way made a serious situation [bold]considerably worse[/bold], and your comment is just [bold]plain stupid[/bold]. The jams around the blockage were so tight that even a rat couldn't slip through. So dancingdog777's suggestion is a [italic]very sensible one[/italic]. The flow of traffic needs to be kept moving and many years ago this was a priority for the police in the event of an accident or jam. But not now - can I smell a rat here? [/quote] Looks like you have been hitting the bottle again.
Better than hitting the wife though, possbily
HAL101 wrote:
Robert Ratcliffe wrote: dancingdog777 wrote: Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.
As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.
Obviously closing off the Wessex Way made a serious situation considerably worse, and your comment is just plain stupid. The jams around the blockage were so tight that even a rat couldn't slip through. So dancingdog777's suggestion is a very sensible one. The flow of traffic needs to be kept moving and many years ago this was a priority for the police in the event of an accident or jam. But not now - can I smell a rat here?
Looks like you have been hitting the bottle again.
Better than hitting the wife though, possbily
Posted by: Munkstar, Bournemouth on 9:54pm Sun 20 Jul 08
The error is the lack of exits/entrances from Castlepoint and a moronic lack of a dual carriageway from the Broadway to the Cooper Dean.
The error is the lack of exits/entrances from Castlepoint and a moronic lack of a dual carriageway from the Broadway to the Cooper Dean.
Posted by: dancingdog777, Christchurch on 10:30pm Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote]huge development around both the hospital and Wessex fields[/quote]
WHY?
Three quarters of the Airfield Industrial Park in Christchurch is empty. Why not use that instead?
huge development around both the hospital and Wessex fields
WHY?
Three quarters of the Airfield Industrial Park in Christchurch is empty. Why not use that instead?
Posted by: nickboy, West London on 7:12am Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]dancingdog777[/bold] wrote:
[quote]huge development around both the hospital and Wessex fields[/quote] WHY? Three quarters of the Airfield Industrial Park in Christchurch is empty. Why not use that instead? [/quote] That would be too much like common sense !
dancingdog777 wrote:
huge development around both the hospital and Wessex fields
WHY? Three quarters of the Airfield Industrial Park in Christchurch is empty. Why not use that instead?
That would be too much like common sense !
Posted by: HAL101, Bournemouth on 8:05am Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Robert Ratcliffe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]HAL101[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Robert Ratcliffe[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]dancingdog777[/bold] wrote: Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.[/quote] As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.[/quote] [bold]Obviously[/bold] closing off the Wessex Way made a serious situation [bold]considerably worse[/bold], and your comment is just [bold]plain stupid[/bold]. The jams around the blockage were so tight that even a rat couldn't slip through. So dancingdog777's suggestion is a [italic]very sensible one[/italic]. The flow of traffic needs to be kept moving and many years ago this was a priority for the police in the event of an accident or jam. But not now - can I smell a rat here? [/quote] Looks like you have been hitting the bottle again. Better than hitting the wife though, possbily[/quote] That's another ir rat ional comment from you.
Robert Ratcliffe wrote:
HAL101 wrote: Robert Ratcliffe wrote: dancingdog777 wrote: Why did the Dorset Police close the Wessex Way during rush hour? Just because of a broken down lorry! Duh! Have they never heard of tempory traffic lights to ease the traffic flow around the obstacle? And those traffic lights at Castle Point are awful. Did anyone else notice how well the traffic flowed during the road works on that junction, BEFORE the new lights were switched on? Yes, there were no hold ups whatsoever! Get rid of the lights completely, they're the CAUSE of the problems.
As the road is jammed past this point the lights make no difference except allowing everyone to get out as some point.
Obviously closing off the Wessex Way made a serious situation considerably worse, and your comment is just plain stupid. The jams around the blockage were so tight that even a rat couldn't slip through. So dancingdog777's suggestion is a very sensible one. The flow of traffic needs to be kept moving and many years ago this was a priority for the police in the event of an accident or jam. But not now - can I smell a rat here?
Looks like you have been hitting the bottle again. Better than hitting the wife though, possbily
That's another ir rat ional comment from you.
Posted by: sonicdeb, Aberdeenshire on 10:23am Mon 21 Jul 08
I am so glad I've moved to Scotland! I have already said this on the travellers article. We do get the odd roadworks but the traffic is so much less. I have no trouble getting from 'A' to 'B' in a reasonable time. I visited Bournemouth in April this year & was glad to get back home. No wonder there's road rage!
I am so glad I've moved to Scotland! I have already said this on the travellers article. We do get the odd roadworks but the traffic is so much less. I have no trouble getting from 'A' to 'B' in a reasonable time. I visited Bournemouth in April this year & was glad to get back home. No wonder there's road rage!
Posted by: philly, bournemouth on 11:29am Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]fiona[/bold] wrote:
Tailbacks on Castle Lane were described as the worst ever, with some shoppers stuck in the Castlepoint car park for ''hours'' Thats an exaggeration I doubt any car was stuck in that car park for ''hours'' that doesnt happen [/quote] 'Hours' as in plural as in more than one....it has taken me 2 hours 15 minutes to get out before now - and that was not on this reported day. Please comment on what you know not what you think!
fiona wrote:
Tailbacks on Castle Lane were described as the worst ever, with some shoppers stuck in the Castlepoint car park for ''hours'' Thats an exaggeration I doubt any car was stuck in that car park for ''hours'' that doesnt happen
'Hours' as in plural as in more than one....it has taken me 2 hours 15 minutes to get out before now - and that was not on this reported day. Please comment on what you know not what you think!
Posted by: Ian, bournemouth on 12:01pm Mon 21 Jul 08
Scrap Castlepoint knock it down, blow it up get rid of it. the traffic flowing through castle lane was bliss when castlepoint was shut.a
Scrap Castlepoint knock it down, blow it up get rid of it. the traffic flowing through castle lane was bliss when castlepoint was shut.a
Posted by: dibbles, Bournemouth on 1:44pm Mon 21 Jul 08
[quote][bold]cheesedof[/bold] wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe they were painting white lines at Cadnam. KIDS JUST BROKE UP, JULY, FRIDAY NIGHT. Hats of to the forward planners in HAMPSHIRE! When will any of these jobsworths become accountable?[bold][bold]bold[/bold] [bold][bold]bold[/bold] [/bold] [/bold] [/quote] Most kids do not break up until tomorrow so you cant blame the holiday season and answer to previous post"Why do they do it in summer?, probably because the weather is better and therefore less time lost on being rained off, well in theory anyway?
cheesedof wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe they were painting white lines at Cadnam. KIDS JUST BROKE UP, JULY, FRIDAY NIGHT. Hats of to the forward planners in HAMPSHIRE! When will any of these jobsworths become accountable?
Most kids do not break up until tomorrow so you cant blame the holiday season and answer to previous post"Why do they do it in summer?, probably because the weather is better and therefore less time lost on being rained off, well in theory anyway?
Posted by: fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown on 9:00pm Mon 21 Jul 08
These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.
These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.
Posted by: cheesedof, wimborne on 12:05am Tue 22 Jul 08
No Dibbles Kids in other area's had broken up ,we are talking trying to get into Dorset not out.Not having a go at the excellent workers, but when the management go on strike may it be for EVER!
No Dibbles Kids in other area's had broken up ,we are talking trying to get into Dorset not out.Not having a go at the excellent workers, but when the management go on strike may it be for EVER!
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 6:45am Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote:
These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.[/quote] Spot on!!
Another thing that beats me, yet again, is the lack of train services!
Why do they build these huge complexes nowhere near a train line?
I feel very sorry for the people living in that area.
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.
Spot on!!
Another thing that beats me, yet again, is the lack of train services!
Why do they build these huge complexes nowhere near a train line?
I feel very sorry for the people living in that area.
Posted by: scorpio3, dorset on 10:00am Tue 22 Jul 08
Castlepoint was very much needed in this area,we also have a few schools using the same route,what we didnt need was (another) shopping village,castlemore, in the same area ,that could have been used somehow to ease traffic,or dare i say it somthing for the kids, to ease antisocial behaviour.
Castlepoint was very much needed in this area,we also have a few schools using the same route,what we didnt need was (another) shopping village,castlemore, in the same area ,that could have been used somehow to ease traffic,or dare i say it somthing for the kids, to ease antisocial behaviour.
Posted by: GRIFF, Christchurch on 11:12am Tue 22 Jul 08
Castlepoint was extremely badly designed from day one.
Castlepoint was extremely badly designed from day one.
Posted by: sinbad, upton on 12:46pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote:
These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.[/quote] Here we go again - the self-appointed traffic expert speaks...the days of expensive new road schemes are all but over and we have to encourage people to get out of their cars when they can by providing cycle lanes etc....can't see you ever doing it though!
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.
Here we go again - the self-appointed traffic expert speaks...the days of expensive new road schemes are all but over and we have to encourage people to get out of their cars when they can by providing cycle lanes etc....can't see you ever doing it though!
Posted by: fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown on 2:09pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]sinbad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.[/quote] Here we go again - the self-appointed traffic expert speaks...the days of expensive new road schemes are all but over and we have to encourage people to get out of their cars when they can by providing cycle lanes etc....can't see you ever doing it though![/quote] Proper infrastucture includes bus and cycle lanes as well as roads. You don't need to be a traffic expert to know that our roads / bus & cycle lanes are a joke. It's too dangerous to cycle so I usually walk!
sinbad wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote: These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.
Here we go again - the self-appointed traffic expert speaks...the days of expensive new road schemes are all but over and we have to encourage people to get out of their cars when they can by providing cycle lanes etc....can't see you ever doing it though!
Proper infrastucture includes bus and cycle lanes as well as roads. You don't need to be a traffic expert to know that our roads / bus & cycle lanes are a joke. It's too dangerous to cycle so I usually walk!
Posted by: Robert Ratcliffe, poole on 5:35pm Tue 22 Jul 08
[quote][bold]2Much[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.[/quote] Spot on!! Another thing that beats me, yet again, is the lack of train services! Why do they build these huge complexes nowhere near a train line? I feel very sorry for the people living in that area.[/quote] Yeah, I can just see people going by train, not. It is a bit hard to carry a fence panel on the train...
All it would have done was get more people to the centre, not change how
2Much wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote: These roadworks are a joke - tinkering with roads by adding bus and cycle lanes will solve nothing. The Council has got to start providing proper infrastructure or stop approving new developments.
Spot on!! Another thing that beats me, yet again, is the lack of train services! Why do they build these huge complexes nowhere near a train line? I feel very sorry for the people living in that area.
Yeah, I can just see people going by train, not. It is a bit hard to carry a fence panel on the train...
All it would have done was get more people to the centre, not change how
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